Drew Miller talks with Jeremy Casella and Ben Shive about the making of Jeremy's song, "Many Waters." They discuss the magic of mixing high language with common vernacular—in both music and lyrics—and God’s utter lack of pretense. They also geek out over those delicious chords in the second verse.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

Drew Miller talks with Jeremy Casella and Ben Shive about the making of Jeremy's song, "Many Waters." They discuss the magic of mixing high language with common vernacular—in both music and lyrics—and God’s utter lack of pretense. They also geek out over those delicious chords in the second verse. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Drew Miller&nbsp;talks with&nbsp;Jeremy Casella and Ben Shive&nbsp;about the making of Jeremy's song, "Many Waters." They discuss the magic of mixing high language with common vernacular—in both music and lyrics—and God’s utter lack of pretense. They also geek out over those delicious chords in the second verse.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener" rel="noopener noreferrer">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

S2 E7: Jeremy Casella & Ben Shive

A great song is most often the result not of instantaneous inspiration, but of a long obedience to the call of the song. This podcast explores artists' and producers' confrontations with the "Second Muse," the muse of effort rather than of inspiration, and takes a good hard look at how they’ve chosen to contend with her.

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S2 E7: Jeremy Casella & Ben Shive

S2 E7: Jeremy Casella & Ben Shive