In this heartfelt conversation, we continue to explore what it means to find joy during a transitional season. We explore the emotional tension of letting go of what was, sitting in the uncertainty of what’s next, and learning how to stay grounded in God’s presence through it all.  

Rather than forcing ourselves to be “happy,” we’ve discovered that joy often looks like peace, rest, or quiet contentment. We share how slowing down, creating new rhythms, and embracing creativity helped us rediscover joy in the simple things.  

This episode is filled with real talk about grief, boredom, letting go of control, and the surprising beauty of unlearning old patterns. It’s an honest and hope-filled reminder that in every wilderness season, there is still joy to be found when we choose to be present and partner with God in the moment.

💡 Highlights of our discussion include:

• We share how we attempt to navigate transition seasons with intentionality and grace.
• We acknowledge the emotional tension of grief, uncertainty, and letting go.
• Joy doesn’t always look like celebration—sometimes it’s contentment, peace, or simply presence.
• How reframing our mindset from “What don’t I have?” to “What do I already have?” became a turning point.
• Rest and margin allowed us to connect more deeply with God and others.
• Be open to new rhythms: less busyness, more stillness, and the freedom to enjoy the moment.
• Creativity became a surprising source of joy—through food, art, or trying something new.
• We talk about the power of unlearning old habits and forming healthier, grace-filled patterns.
• Trusting God in the slow seasons helped shift their focus from doing to being.
• A fresh invitation is offered to find joy right where you are—even in the simple, unexpected things.

 

📖 Scriptures

• Matthew 11:28–30 (The Message)
  “Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace.”
• Matthew 6:34 (NIV)
  “Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
• Luke 10:41–42 (NIV)
  “Martha, Martha,” the Lord answered, “you are worried and upset about many things, but few things are needed—or indeed only one. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.”
• John 6:9 (NIV)
  “Here is a boy with five small barley loaves and two small fish, but how far will they go among so many?”
• Proverbs 10:22 (NIV)
  “The blessing of the Lord brings wealth, without painful toil for it.”

 

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