Content warning for this episode: Eating disorders 

Mary and Wyatt welcome the fabulous author, podcast host, and world-creator Kathryn Nicolai (she/her) to the podcast. Kathryn is the creator of the enormously successful podcast Nothing Much Happens and the author of the book of the same name. She is an architect of coziness, writing soothing stories that both ease the reader into peaceful sleep and teach the principals of mindfulness so that waking hours likewise become sweet and serene. She leans on her years of experience as a yoga and meditation teacher to seamlessly blend storytelling with brain training techniques that build better sleep habits over time. She lives in Michigan with her wife and three dogs.

Mary and Wyatt chat with Kathryn about creating and maintaining boundaries, both in personal and professional life. They talk about the genesis of Nothing Much Happens (it involves a beagle), and the incredible world she has created through the stories on the podcast. She also talks about how those beautiful stories became a beautifully illustrated book. Also on the agenda: Mary and Wyatt pitch their own sleep stories; Kathryn tells us how to make butter tomato sauce; and poems by Ada Limón, Rumi, and Rachel Wiley. 

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