It was 2019, a simpler time. It was pre-covid, or maybe not. I think that weird one day chest cold thing I had was probably the virus. It was in May, so that would make me the earliest documented case. Perhaps. Anyway, it was a simpler time. Jim Stingl was a prominent columnist at the Milwaukee Journal. We had him on our show and we asked him a number of questions. I'm sure we thought our questions were insightful at the time, but they have not aged well. You be the judge. However, in hindsight I wish I would asked him what's the deal with the missing "e" in his last name. A missed opportunity for me. This however is a opportunity for you. A chance to listen to this 2019 podcast in it's entirety without the intros and outros for a more streamlined experience.