In the second episode of the second season of the Empty Cases Podcast, Richard Mann talks with a lady who is a hunter, a pilot, and who is also the President of the International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA)  On his way back from an aoudad hunt along the Mexica border, Richard stopped by the Circle WC ranch near Cuthand, Texas to visit with Bill Wilson and his wife Joyce Wilson, who like Richard, is a native West Virginian. Listen and you will get to hear about how Joyce met Bill, about the IDPA, and about Joyce’s best and worst shots. You’ll also hear how a good shot helped her get her shot.