Authenticity, Belonging, Community

S2 Ep 2: Radical Listening | E. Patrick Johnson


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On this episode of INCOGNITO the podcast, Michael interviews E. Patrick Johnson! E. Patrick is the Dean of the School of Communication and Annenberg University Professor at Northwestern University, as well as a prolific performer, scholar, and author, and a 2020 inductee into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. In this episode, Michael and E. Patrick discuss the necessity of expressing grace towards others and leading with integrity, particularly when it comes to uniting people across a variety of identities. E. Patrick shares his technique of radical listening and holding space for others to fill as a means of seeing people in their entirety and moving closer towards understanding them.

Key Takeaways:

  • Express grace
  • Race is a fiction, racism is not
  • Try not to think about how identity might be an obstacle and instead focus on task at hand
  • Lead with integrity
  • Ask
  • Practice radical listening and listening with compassion
  • Everybody has a story to tell, but they don’t always get a chance to tell it
  • Hold the space
  • Bring your full self to every context
  • Recognize the value of people who serve others
  • E. Patrick’s Media Recommendations:

    • A Strange Loop by Michael R. Jackson currently running on Broadway at the Lyceum Theatre (musical): https://strangeloopmusical.com/
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      Find E. Patrick’s work

      • E. Patrick’s Website: https://epatrickjohnson.com
      • E. Patrick’s Published Works: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=e.+patrick+johnson&crid=ZAG9II36I263&sprefix=E.+Patrick%2Caps%2C100&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_10
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        Editing and co-production of this podcast by Nina Kissinger.

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