On this episode Saba & I are joined by Calvin from Podcast Cal & Gabe from the Ultimate Black Man Radio Podcast! Wrapping up this episode we talk about a bad habit we've had to unlearn. Also, the 2 guys on the show Cal & Gabe have a lil back and forth at the end about black women! You don't wanna miss THAT convo! Tune in for the conclusion of this episode! Follow Cal on IG: All_I_Do_Is_Pen & follow Gabe at @Ultimateblackman