In part one of the episode Daniel talks with Kai the creator of Silence is a Lie. Silence is a lie is a Turn based game with a similar play style to Final Fantasy Tactics. In the second part of the episode Chris and Daniel speak with Eldin the creator of Those Who Rule. Those Who Rule is a hex grid tactical map game which has some similarities to Fire Emblem

HOSTS: Daniel McGarr, Chris Harkey GUESTS: Kai Niklas, Eldin Turulja

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