In the fourth episode of season two of our Back to the F**kture podcast, Martin Raymond speaks with techno-optimist Bethany Koby-Hirschmann about the importance of a healthy relationship between children and technology.

Beth is the co-founder of Tech Will Save Us, and founder of FAM, the family inventions studio that’s already making waves in the world of health, wellbeing and the future happiness of families.

In this episode, we talk about re-assessing the role that families play in envisaging tomorrow, and how in turn they can use this optimistic understanding of technology and their relationship with it to make that future better, more inclusive and family-friendly. Listen now.