In this episode of The Rest is Just Geography, a podcast from Liberty University, Chesed sits down with Matt to reflect on the long and winding journey of pursuing overseas work through his emerging adult years. Matt shares how his path unfolded with many unexpected twists and turns, taking far longer than he ever imagined—but ultimately leading him and his family to life and ministry in West Africa.

Together, they explore the often-hidden preparation phase of overseas calling, recognizing how God’s providence and sovereignty were at work in every delay, redirection, and season of waiting. This conversation is a reminder that purposeful preparation is never wasted, and that God is faithful in both the journey and the destination.

This episode was produced by Chesed Anne Dent Fitzsimons.

Podcast editing: Peyton Rice, Cohen Kern, & Chesed Anne Dent Fitzsimons.

Podcast music: Endless Bliss — written by Sander Kalmeijer, performed and produced by Sounds Like Sander.

Podcast cover image: Jonathan Brown

Please note that guests of this podcast may use pseudonyms.