Caroline Bowditch joins Sam to discuss 'inclusion' and how 'empathy' shows up within this. Caroline is an internationally renowned performer, choreographer, teacher and maker, and is currently CEO of Arts Access Victoria in Australia. Caroline is a disabled woman who believes passionately in creating spaces where people feel they can truly be themselves. In this episode she shares some new thoughts around how we can approach 'inclusion', including the word itself.

Check out the episode page on our website for a full transcript: www.curiousmotion.org.uk/podcasts/series-2-caroline-bowditch

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Arts Access Victoria - their advocacy page includes links to some of Caroline's latest work: www.artsaccess.com.au/creating-change/advocacy/

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