Martin Green (Director of Eurovision) - 24:37, Santino Fontana (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Frozen, Tootsie) - 42:08

First we deep dive into the controversy around three of Eurovision’s most provocative acts: Australia’s Milkshake Man (Go Jo), Malta’s Serving (Miriana Conte), and Finland’s Ich Komme (Erika Vikman). We discuss broader trends that have led the contest once known exclusively as a “family show” to have to confront these boundary pushing acts - and talk about how Eurovision’s recently released Code of Conduct could be a road map for the future.

Then, in a very special interview, we talk to the new Director of Eurovision - Martin Green. We discuss the various controversies the contest has to face in these politically divided, fractious times - and get a sense of how he and the organization are thinking about navigating the current social moment.

Finally, we sit down with Tony Award-winning star of stage and screen Santino Fontana (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Hans in Disney’s Frozen, Tootsie) for a look at how right-wing politicians have tried to tame Eurovision acts in the past, in a game we're calling "Crazy Ex-Governments."

CRAZY EX-GOVERNMENTS:

SPAIN

Barei, Say Yay! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0I37W3RN_U

Blanco Paloma, Eaea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxuO0qZITko

POLAND

Gromee feat Lukas Meijer, Light Me Up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfUJ2eDm6ng

Luna, The Tower - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhvDkF9XZx0

Donatan and Cleo, We Are Slavic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ920cN2HmA

UK

James Newman, Embers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMDGTsa_Qq0

Olly Alexander, Dizzy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNUj7kvn2w

HUNGARY

Joci Papai, Origo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LflrKXL022U

Zoli Ádok, Dance With Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXjY3Y9RMZI

ISRAEL

Harel Skaat, Milim - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj0qaNnLk9M

Noa and Mira Awad, There Must Be Another Way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBTQFOkFZw8