In this episode of the Not Impossible Podcast, host and Not Impossible Labs founder Mick Ebeling sits down with Dr. Kimberly Budil, Director of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, who oversaw the first-ever net positive nuclear fusion reaction, a milestone comparable to the Wright brothers’ first flight.
Fusion has long lived in the realm of “someday science.” But as Dr. Budil explains, that someday is suddenly feeling a lot closer. Together, Mick and Dr. Budil unpack how 192 synchronized lasers, a gold cylinder, a diamond fuel capsule, and a tiny peppercorn-sized ball of hydrogen created one of the most important scientific achievements of our generation.
This conversation dives deep into the physics, the story, and the future of fusion energy — and explores what it will take to turn this breakthrough into a real path toward limitless, clean, sustainable power.

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