We're sorry, we promise we'll try our best to stop talking about him! But thank you, listeners, for joining us briefly as we discuss plagiarism, abuse, and what it means to love and grapple with art made by cruel people. But don't worry, we're soon back on our bullshit with some truly lush prose in chapters 14 & 15 of Claw of the Conciliator! Join us as we encounter strange and incomprehensible statues, soul-sucking office waiting rooms, and some (perhaps based???) political thoughts.

To skip our Neil Gaiman conversation, go to 22:00!

Read writing-for-life's rebuttal of the plagiarism accusations against Neil Gaiman here:

https://www.tumblr.com/writing-for-life/773593938299912192/tales-from-the-flat-earth-by-tanith-lee

Read Andrea Skinner's account of her mother and stepfather here:

https://archive.ph/97YUf

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