While career changes are sometimes frowned upon, switching roles has put a smile on the face of Dr. Dwight Holland. From engineering and geophysics work in the Antarctic to serving as US military pilot-physician, Dr. Holland has learned a lot and literally lived the Star Trek catchphrase, "to boldly go where no man (or at least very few) has gone before!" Tune in as James and Dwight's conversation covers everything from their mutual flying friends to the ancient roots of the Order of St. John.