Is self defense punk? Not everyone knows about Susie’s early days in New York as a young punk rocker working at CBGBs. Kate is interested in whether Susie’s love of punk rock as it is related to protecting marginalized people, living on the fringe, and political action underlies her motivation to get a black belt and teach self-defense. Punk is about questioning the status quo, challenging authority, and questioning the order of things. Punk says “F-you” and allows people to be whatever they want to be: “When you empower people is when they start to see the weakness in the structures.”

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