Conversations with Cerny and McCurdy is a show where co-hosts Ryan McCurdy and Chris Cerny deep dive about their lives, the job market, among other topics. They'll be chatting with friends, specialists, and other guests to explore a wide range of topics. Get ready for honest opinions, thoughtful discussions, and a whole lot of laughs!

Working a 9–5 while building your creative dream? Yeah… it’s not glamorous, it’s not easy, and most of it happens when no one’s watching.

In this episode, Chris and Ryan break down what it really feels like to juggle full-time work and full-time ambition.

We get into:

• A real day-in-the-life of two creators with jobs
• The pressure of living a “double life”
• Burnout moments we don’t talk about enough
• The systems that keep us focused (and sane)
• Our weekly “Creator Confessions” that prove nobody has it figured out

If you’re chasing a dream while clocking in every day, this one’s for you.

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