Welcome to the latest episode. This is a little longer than usual. But my guest is founding member of the Christian Alternative band Undercover and a college professor.  We discuss his career in the band, running record labels (Broken, Brainstorm Artists International and Innocent Records) and his journey through faith and why we are both now atheists. I appreciate your listening and hope you enjoy listening to our discussion.

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Ojo can also be found here:

https://ojotaylor.wordpress.com/

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