Influential poet Michael Lally invites me into his remote New York home to talk about one of his earliest publications, "The South Orange Sonnets." Wearing his Words Bookstore shirt, he tells me about growing up in town as a "punk" in the 1940s, his second career as an actor and defining success and failure at the age of 81. And what actually makes a poem a poem?

Michael's latest book, "Another Way to Play: Poems 1960-2017" is available on Amazon and the usual places books are sold. Check out his blog, Lally's Alley at www.lallysalley.blogspot.com

Thanks to Robert Lasner, Executive Director of the Maplewood South Orange Book Festival, for introducing this episode.