In this latest episode of the PCI podcast, David Thompson, Secretary of PCI’s Council for Congregational Life and Witness talks with Gary Millar, Principal of Queensland Theological College in Brisbane, Australia about his recent book called Both/And Ministry: Living and leading like Jesus’.

Present is a denomination wide initiative inviting and encouraging congregations and their members to make themselves fully present to God who is ever present to us.

Find out more and watch a video about the Present initiative here www.presbyterianireland.org/present