Ali Mau kept her abuse private for four decades before speaking publicly and in her memoir, No Words For This, she returns to that story with fresh clarity.

In this episode, the Australian-born, New Zealand investigative journalist—best known for her reporting on the #MeToo movement—speaks about surviving abuse, reporting on it in New Zealand and her latest chapter: co-founding Tika, an app connecting survivors and helping hold perpetrators to account. Tika means justice.

Content warning: This episode discusses sexual harassment and abuse. Listener discretion is advised.

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