In this heartfelt episode, host Dawne Hanks sits down with longtime friend and healthcare operations leader Veronica Roberts for a deeply honest conversation about healing, identity, and learning to trust your gut.

Veronica shares how, after her divorce, she struggled with the desire to be wanted; often ignoring her intuition in the pursuit of external validation. Through leadership training and deep self-reflection, she began to unlearn these patterns and reconnect with her inner voice. Now, she’s embracing a life where her worth isn’t determined by attention, beauty, or approval; but by how fully she loves and honors herself.

Together, Dawne and Veronica talk about the emotional layers of self-trust, the journey from fantasy to truth, and how real partnerships; starting with the one you have with yourself—are where the healing happens.