"A good piece of work is written once.  A great piece is written five times."  To Elizabeth Kulas, the host of ABC's Days Like These, narrative structure is front of mind in planning and writing every podcast episode.   Formerly the host of 7am, she gives a Masterclass in structuring your episode.

Louisa Lim teaches Audio Journalism and Podcasting at the University of Melbourne's Centre for Advancing Journalism.  She has been a journalist for more than two decades, working as a foreign correspondent in China for a decade for the BBC and NPR.  She co-hosts a podcast on China, The Little Red Podcast, which won the Australian Podcast Award's News and Current Affairs prize in 2018.

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