In this episode, we sit down with Caroline, a quantitative UX researcher, global citizen, and storyteller at heart.

Caroline takes us through her journey from an early love of math to a career rooted in using data to influence business strategy and tell stories at Google. Having lived and worked across Kenya, the United States, Ireland, and Switzerland, she reflects on how constant movement shaped her identity, worldview, and relationship to belonging.

Beyond her professional path, Caroline opens up about navigating a breast cancer diagnosis and how it fundamentally shifted the way she thinks about ambition, work, and what it means to truly live. We talk candidly about the pressures tied to “Black Excellence,” the cost of constantly striving, and the power of choosing authenticity and well-being over performance. As Caroline puts it, Black excellence is about creating spaces where Black people don’t need to be exceptional to be worthy.

This conversation is a reminder that resilience doesn’t always look like pushing harder; sometimes it looks like slowing down, setting boundaries, and redefining success on your own terms. An honest, grounding episode for anyone navigating life, career, and identity while learning how to choose themselves.

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