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S2E2: Nonhuman POV / But which one of us is right?

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This week, we discuss the nonhuman point of view in Brendan Wenzel’s picture book “They All Saw a Cat” and Mary Oliver’s poem “Driving Through the Wind River Reservation: A Poem of Black Bear”. Aparna discovers magical and meddlesome eucalyptus properties and Haley shares a story from her grandfather’s childhood.


 Mentions: 

  • "The One and Only Ivan" by Katherine Applegate (2012)
  • "Turtles All the Way Down by John Green (2017)
  • "Dream Work" by Mary Oliver (1986)
  • "Time is a Mother" by Ocean Vuong (2022)
  • @m_d_n_f_ on Instagram 
  • Austin Kleon's newsletter: https://austinkleon.com/newsletter/
  • Pádraig Ó Tuama’s poem “There is a Time to Love and a Tome to Hate: a Time for Making War” from his collection “Feed the Beast” (2022)


    • Thank you to Pádraig Ó Tuama whose poem “The Facts of Life” inspired the title of this podcast. 

    Cover image by Sanjana Kapur.

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