Julia interviews Dr. David Hartman (Masters in Sociology from Notre Dame, PhD in Counselors Ed from Seattle Pacific, Counseling Educator, and long-time friend) about some of the processes that lie behind how identity formation works, and how Christians can be intentional about Christian identity formation. (Julia also goes old-school and quotes Pink Floyd with the help of audio engineer James Hixon.)

You can hear more from David on the More Than This podcast. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-this/id1441211852