Eric and Julia have a conversation about holding on to hope in the face of a world enamored with deconstruction, and what it means to look at the world and church around us, in all of its mess and very real challenges, through the eyes of faith, hope, and love.

As mentioned in the show: After You Believe: Why Christian Character Matters, by NT Wright.
https://bookstore.vineyardcolumbus.org/reads/p/after-you-believe-why-christian-character-matters?rq=after%20you%20believe