Rob and Hannes discuss everything from the pirate radio station he once ran to important thinkers like medieval theologian Thomas Aquinas and Friedrich von Hayek.

Hannes believes that the best kind of liberalism is what he calls conservative liberalism, which is a long tradition, which combines the price mechanism with the decentralisation of knowledge on one hand and traditional morality on the other. Much of the discussion arises from Hannes’ recent book Twenty-Four Conservative-Liberal Thinkers (New Directions 2020).

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