Greg and Geoff sit down with Ali Manning, Chief Operating Officer at Chalice, who co-founded one of adtech's hottest AI companies after senior roles at Google and Snap.

Ali shares how being underestimated became her edge, why she rejected advice to smile less and talk slower, and what it means to build a company culture where people can show up as themselves. Plus her take on why the industry needs to stop talking about what AI will do and start showing what it already has.