Mel talks with Phoebe about the mental health impacts of unexpected life changes.

"I'm no longer afraid to say, 'I'm not okay.'"

They discuss Phoebe's experience as an actor during COVID and needing to make major career shifts without having planned to, along with Phoebe's experiences with anxiety. 

Phoebe shares about her first time in therapy, some books that made her feel seen in her healing journey, and ways she's coped and things she's learned from this experience.

You can find Phoebe on instagram and tik tok @readandwright or at her website readandwright.com. Phoebe has her own podcast, Read it or List it Pod, which you can access anywhere you listen to podcasts!!