How do modern musicians incorporate creativity into their careers beyond creating music? In today's episode, co-hosts Nathalie Simper and Katherine Emeneth discuss what creativity looks like in their music careers and in their personal lives - and how that balance has changed over the years.

Main Points:

• Why music as a creative outlet can become "stale" for career musicians
• Discussion on how creative career norms (not just music) actually discourage creativity
• Why being creative doesn't mean you have to be "innovative" or "cutting edge" in big ways
• How creativity beyond your career can actually spark creativity
• Incorporating "routine" creativity to develop open mindedness and flexibility
• K and N's sources of inspiration/motivation/drive even through the "busy work" of musicianship

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