Cait & Katie discuss the special interviews with Ann Crittenden and Emma Johnson, and break down some of the realities about the labor of mothering, parenting with and without a partner, burnout, policy, and what might have to happen in America for things to actually change.  

CREDITS:

Hosted by: Caitlin Scholl and Katie Wilson

Sound Design & Editing by: Caitlin Scholl

Mixing & Mastering by: Chris Burns

Opening music: “America” by Bill Callahan

Closing music: “Mama” by Caitlin Scholl

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