In this episode, The Sober Pod crew has Cyndi Turner, a harm reduction therapist, on the show. She was a unique guest in the sense that Cyndi challenges the traditional belief that all drinkers experiencing problems are "alcoholics." She is a proponent of the idea that some folks that have had problems drinking can moderate their alcohol consumption. We asked her questions about her alcohol moderation assessment she created and Sam even asked "What about me?" Take a listen and let us know what you think about what Cyndi said! We would love to engage with you on your thoughts about this topic.