The first week of the NFL is concluded and the masses already have expectations for first year QBs and several others that have a year or two in the league.

Steve and I discuss others before them and the common denominators for those that succeed and those that don't.

Players discussed, Phillip Rivers, Dree Brees, Eli Manning, Peyton, Troy Aikman, Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Geno Smith, Steve Young, and others.