Get more stages by being more courageous!

Learn how to challenge your inner dialogue as a speaker, refine your keynotes for greater impact, and connect powerfully with any audience. In this inspiring conversation, Li Hayes welcomes Owen Fitzpatrick—psychologist, thought leader, and speaker—who shares practical insights on the psychology of belief, maintaining humility and confidence, and continuously improving your craft. Whether you’re stepping onto your first stage or are a seasoned professional, you’ll discover actionable advice for up-leveling your presence, creating audience buy-in, and customizing your message to resonate deeply.

Discover why “good enough” is an empty metric, how your “inner propaganda” could be sabotaging your voice, and why the best speakers never stop learning—or questioning their beliefs. Owen Fitzpatrick shares insightful personal stories, from overcoming severe self-doubt to thriving as a global speaker, and unpacks the psychology behind connection, audience buy-in, and belief leadership. 

This episode delivers an arsenal of practical, psychology-backed tips for new and seasoned speakers alike. Plus, get a sneak peek at Owen Fitzpatrick’s ground-breaking book "Inner Propaganda" and leave with actionable advice to become not just a thought leader, but a belief leader—on stage, and off.

Episode Overview

• 0:00 –Intro Announcer: Welcome and show introduction
• 0:41 –Li Hayes: Broadening the podcast's audience and introducing Owen Fitzpatrick
• 2:01 –Li Hayes & Owen Fitzpatrick: "Inner propaganda" and the myth of being “good enough”
• 6:33 – The balance between humility and ego in speaking
• 8:32 – Building an “anti-fragile” speaker identity
• 11:13 – The art of winning over an audience (even when they’re tired or skeptical!)
• 15:37 – Energizing the room: stage entrance and exit best practices
• 18:37 – How your words are truly interpreted: Language, belief, and connection
• 24:08 – Customization secrets: How much should you tailor your talk?
• 28:30 – Branding, belief leadership, and building trust off-stage
• 35:49 – Owen Fitzpatrick: His brand, big idea, and upcoming book
• 41:18 – The most important advice for your own path to the main stage
• 43:18 – Show wrap-up and ways to connect

Ready to break through your inner propaganda and bring your message to the world? Press play and step confidently onto YOUR path to the main stage.