Like a song that feels written just for you, Pham's debut work of nonfiction captures the imagination and refuses to let go. Pop Song is a book about love and about falling in love—with a place, or a painting, or a person—and the joy and terror inherent in the experience of that love. Named a Best Book of the Year by Time, Electric Literature, and NPR, Pham's collection is "a warm and expansive portrait of a woman’s mind that feels at once singular and universal"(Buzzfeed). Pham joined us in person for the paperback release of Pop Song, in conversation with award-winning poet Sally Wen Mao (Oculus), where they extolled the virtues of documenting life. A probing conversation "balanced between, head, heart, and body" (-Jean, Greenlight event host). (Recorded June 30, 2022.)