<div>Lucy talks to the Bishop Kenneth Nowakowski about life in Ukraine today, the psychological impact of the war, and what Ukraine needs most of all - and its not weapons.</div>

Lucy talks to the Bishop Kenneth Nowakowski about life in Ukraine today, the psychological impact of the war, and what Ukraine needs most of all - and its not weapons.

S3 Ep7: On the couch: Bishop Kenneth Nowakowski

Welcome to On the Couch, a new political podcast from Reaction and broadcaster and psychotherapist Lucy Beresford. In each episode, Lucy is joined by a special guest to take a deep dive into the relationships making the headlines in politics today and explore the psychology of so much in political life.

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S3 Ep7: On the couch: Bishop Kenneth Nowakowski

S3 Ep7: On the couch: Bishop Kenneth Nowakowski