Marcia Clarke, pastor and adjunct professor at Fuller Seminary, joins Aaron and Chris to talk about both the need to talk about diversity and why we keep talking about it. Too often in the church we just blindly move past our faults and errors, or worse, ask for forgiveness and act like nothing happened. Discussions about diversity are often too quick to solve an issue without spending the time to really engage with our failures. Marcia helps us understand that we need to not move past our failures too quickly. 

Should Jonathan Edwards be cancelled because he owned slaves, Karl Barth because he had an long standing affair? Aaron and Chris try to tackle what we do with pastors, theologian, and leaders who have shaped the church, but had immorality in their lives.