In the 10th episode of Season 3 David Backovsky interviews Matthias Schulze of the IFSH on all things cyber conflict. They discuss the developing perspectives on what role cyber conflict can play in general and in relation to kinetic operations, and beyond. They also discuss the impacts of recent conflicts including the Russian Invasion of Ukraine on cyber. If you want to get a comprehensive overview of what cyber conflict is and how we see it now, then have a listen.