Is it grudgeworthy if someone has a terrible spouse, even if they themselves are completely innocent? Why aren't more people alert to the grudgeworthiness of their romantic partners? Sophie is joined by this podcast's Grudge-Poet Laureate Nic Aubury to discuss what to do when you have a close friend whom you adore, yet you can't visit them at their house because it contains one of the grudgeworthiest husbands known to humanity (or at least to Sophie).