The Evolution of Parenting Podcast

S3 The EoP: Parenting Adult Kids - Chats with PAKs Rich & Sue Allen


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In this season, we are chatting with Parents with Adult Kids (PAKs). This kick-off episode features a conversation between Robert and Rich & Sue Allen. 


Parents (and grandparents) Rich & Sue Allen share their experiences of raising a diverse family overseas and some of the challenges and opportunities they have encountered as they transitioned to parents of adult kids (PAKs). Of note is there “spreadsheet” approach to “letting go”, over time, as their kids matured and began to leave the nest. Listen as they talk with Robert about how they navigated the potential pitfalls of parenting adult kids.

For more information about their "Spreadsheet", email Robert at [email protected] 

Producer/Host: Robert Hulse

Sound Editing: Jason Hulse

Art & Graphic Design: Don Huff




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