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S3E1: "Privacy-preserving Machine Learning and NLP" with Patricia Thaine (Private AI)


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My guest this week is Patricia Thaine, Co-founder and CEO of Private AI, where she leads a team of experts in developing cutting-edge solutions using AI to identify, reduce, and remove Personally Identifiable Information (PII) in 52 languages across text, audio, images, and documents.

In this episode, we hear from Patricia about: her transition from starting a Ph.D. to co-founding an AI company; how Private AI set out to solve fundamental privacy problems to provide control and understanding of data collection; misunderstandings about how best to leverage AI regarding privacy-preserving machine learning; Private AI’s intention when designing their software, plus newly deployed features; and whether global AI regulations can help with current risks around privacy, rogue AI and copyright.

Topics Covered:

  • Patricia’s professional journey from starting a Ph.D. in Acoustic Forensics to co-founding an AI company
  • Why Private AI’s mission is to solve privacy problems and create a platform for developers to modularly and flexibly integrate it anywhere you want in your software pipeline, including  model ingress & egress
  • How companies can avoid mishandling personal information when leveraging AI / machine learning; and Patricia’s advice to companies to avoid mishandling personal information 
  • Why keeping track of ever-changing data collection and regulations make it hard to find personal information
  • Private AI's privacy-enabling architectural approach to finding personal data to prevent it from being used by or stored in an AI model
  • The approach that Privacy AI took to design their software
  • Private AI's extremely high matching rate, and how they aim for 99%+ accuracy
  • Private AI's roadmap & R&D efforts
  • Debra & Patricia discuss AI Regulation and Patricia's insights from her article 'Thoughts on AI Regulation'
  • A foreshadowing of AI’s copyright risk problem and whether regulations or licenses can help
  • ChatGPT’s popularity, copyright, and the need for embedding privacy, security, and safety by design from the beginning (in the MVP)
  • How to reach out to Patricia to connect, collaborate, or access a demo
  • How thinking about the fundamentals gets you a good way on your way to ensuring privacy & security


Resources Mentioned:

  • Read: Yoshua Bengio’s blog post: "How Rogue AI's May Arise"
  • Read: Microsoft's Digital Defense Report 2023
  • Read Patricia’s article, “Thoughts on AI Regulation” 


Guest Info:

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