The Shifting Privacy Left Podcast

S3E15: 'New Certification: Enabling Privacy Engineering in AI Systems' with Amalia Barthel & Eric Lybeck


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In this episode, I'm joined by Amalia Barthel, founder of Designing Privacy, a consultancy that  helps businesses integrate privacy into business operations; and Eric Lybeck, a seasoned independent privacy engineering consultant with over two decades of experience in cybersecurity and privacy. Eric recently served as Director of Privacy Engineering at Privacy Code. Today, we discuss: the importance of more training for privacy engineers on AI system enablement; why it's not enough for privacy professionals to solely focus on AI governance; and how their new hands-on course, "Privacy Engineering in AI Systems Certificate program," can fill this need.

Throughout our conversation, we explore the differences between AI system enablement and AI governance and why Amalia and Eric were inspired to develop this certification program. They share examples of what is covered in the course and outline the key takeaways and practical toolkits that enrollees will get - including case studies, frameworks, and weekly live sessions throughout.

Topics Covered

  • How AI system enablement differs from AI governance and why we should focus on AI as part of privacy engineering 
  • Why Eric and Amalia designed an AI systems certificate course that bridges the gaps between privacy engineers and privacy attorneys
  • The unique ideas and practices presented in this course and what attendees will take away 
  • Frameworks, cases, and mental models that Eric and Amalia will cover in their course
  • How Eric & Amalia structured the Privacy Engineering in AI Systems Certificate program's coursework 
  • The importance of upskilling for privacy engineers and attorneys


Resources Mentioned:

  • Enroll in the 'Privacy Engineering in AI Systems Certificate program' (Save $300 with promo code: PODCAST300 - enter this into the Inquiry Form instead of directly purchasing the course)
  • Read: 'The Privacy Engineer's Manifesto'
  • Take the free European Commission's course, 'Understanding Law as Code'


Guest Info

  • Connect with Amalia on LinkedIn
  • Connect with Eric on LinkedIn
  • Learn about Designing Privacy


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