We catch up about Daniel's open sourcing of the TelemetryDeck apps (you can submit PRs), SwiftUI vs Catalyst vs macOS, and the new TelemetryDeck website is now live.

Dave's new app "Vita" inches closer to release, and needs a landing page...

Meanwhile despite being on holiday for a week, Daniel has created a new app (Only Birds!) 🐧

Enjoy the show,

Daniel 🚀 und Dave ✨