In this episode of Discussing Nothing, Emma and Kelvin reveal their top 5 worst things to stand on—physically, emotionally, and spiritually. From black ice and crushed snails to the heartbreak of stepping on your dog’s paw, they cover the full spectrum of pain and guilt.

Kelvin shares his sneaky frustrations with creaky floorboards and rogue forest sticks (great for ruining stealth missions or sneaking home after a night out).