Have you ever imagined yourself being a guest at the Mad Hatter tea party from Alice in Wonderland? Our guest, Flemming Ottsen, can make it a reality. In this conversation we talk about switching from engineering and product management to performance. We explore the world of immersive theater, the importance of meditation and the ego work. We also cross a border we never imagined to cross on this podcast - we discuss the potential positive impact of psychedelics.