In this episode, Jeff chats with Brandon Elliott and Dale Trumbore, co-authors of "Composing a Living: A Music Creator's Guide to Money, Relationships, and Business." Elliott and Trumbore interviewed 28 composers to compile advice and information that supports a composer's journey, including negotiating contracts, understanding copyright, diversifying income, and more. Both discuss their personal journey as musicians, and their work supporting young composers to enable creators to build a sustainable career.