As a chaplain, our guest John Betz has seen it all, from "What the Hell are you doing here?" to gifts of moonshine, the spectrum of humanity's brokenness challenged him to get reacquainted with his own brokenness.

John has worked as a Chaplain in Pediatrics, Hospice, the Army, and now is the Executive Directory for Spiritual Health in the Wellstar Health System in Atlanta, Georgia. He has an infectious laugh and encourages us by sharing that what people really need when they are in crisis is NOT the SUPERHERO, but just a Ministry of Presence. 

Links to some of the stories we talked about:

The Four Chaplains who went down with the Dorchester: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Chaplains

The French Rabbi: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/08/exactly-100-years-ago-beautiful-war.html

Pete Holmes Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1THhz0RARjXO8sHZOOdppz