I chat with Kelsey Moreira, Founder & Fearless Leader of Doughp. We discuss how getting sober led to the creation of Doughp, where we are in terms of de-stigmatising addiction recovery, why not starting a canned mocktail company was a good idea, how the pandemic brought about a successful pivot, the advantages of having real SMS conversations with your customers and what it's like to be a Shark Tank contestant.