Ella is BACK! I am so excited to welcome my wonderful niece onto the pod yet again to share the journey she has been on since the last time I sat down with her. Ella wants to help people feel better if they're a little in the middle like she says she is.

In this episode:

- We cry at reality TV! And we love that for us!

- Jake Peralta is a queer icon and helped Ella with her journey! - Ella is a fucking legend and teaches me so much about honouring her boundaries and honouring her "no's"!

- The kids are alright! Bless younger pals who teach us so much, no matter what age! This goes for Ella and I! - I get really protective and proud as an aunty at one point and I AM NOT SORRY!

- Converses are a queer uniform, and multiple pairs make you very very cool.

- Ella hasn't changed! It's how she has been portraying herself that has changed! - ELLA REBRANDED THE "RAPID" FIRE ROUND! FINALLY! WE LOVE!

Resources:

- Follow Ella on IG! @_ellafulla_

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- Music: Shawn Kangro - Follow the podcast network: @604podnetwork